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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 28, 2009 14:08:40 GMT -5
Wha tI am going to attempt to do here is a number by number breakdown of the various smith revolvers and their respective chamberings. What I know now
19,27,28,586,686=357magnum 10=38Special 29,629=44 Mag 500=500S&W 460=460XVR 36=38special k22=22lr please expand
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Post by homefront on Jul 28, 2009 14:23:44 GMT -5
Here's a good reference, from Handloads.com:
It was a good reference, I copied it to the post right below it, but you get credit for finding it, and posting it --nobearsyet
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Post by nobearsyet on Jul 28, 2009 14:41:12 GMT -5
S&W revolver names before World War II Name Caliber Frame .22 Hand Ejector Ladysmith 22 Long M .22/32 Target 22 Long Rifle I .22 Outdoorsman 22 Long Rifle K .32 Hand Ejector (round Butt) 32 S&W Long I .32 Regulation Police (Square Butt) 32 S&W Long I .32-20 Hand Ejector 32-20 Win. K .38 Military&Police 38 Spl K .38 Hand Ejector (same as above, with adjustable sights) .38 Regulation Police (Square Butt) 38 S&W I .38 Terrier 2" Round Butt 38 S&W I .38/44 Heavy Duty (fixed sights) 38 Spl N .38/44 Outdoorsman (Adj. Sights) 38 Spl N .357 Magnum 357 Mag N .44 HAnd Ejector Military Model 44 Spl N .44 Hand ejector Model 1926 44 Spl N (shrouded extractor rod) .45 U.S. Army Revolver, Model 1917 45 ACP N .455 Hand ejector British Service 455 Mark II N
Letter designations igned S&W Revolvers 1900-1930 32 Double Action R 32 Safety Hammerless G 38 Single Action S 38 Double Action D 38 Safety Hammerless Y 44 Double Action L 22 Hand Ejector M 32 Hand ejector I 38 Military and Police K 44 Hand Ejector N 38 Double Action Perfect P 22 Perfect Single Shot T 35 Automatic A 32 Regulation Police B 38 Regulation Police E 22/32 Heavy Frame Target V
Factory Model/caliber designation begun in 1930s 22/32 Tarket IT22 Square Butt 22/32 Kit Gun IT22 Round Butt K-22 Masterpiece KT22 32 Hand Ejector I32 Round Butt 32 Regulation Police I32 Square Butt K-32 Masterpiece KT32 38 Regulation Police I38 Square Butt 38 S&W Terrier I32 Round Butt 38 Military & Police K38 38/44 Heavy Duty N38 K-38 Masterpiece KT38 38/44 Outdoorsman NT38 357 Magnum NT357 1926 Model 44 Military N44 1926 Model 44 Target NT44 1917 Army N45
S&W Model Listing Model year year Frame Caliber Name intro Discon Size 10 1899 K 38 Spl Military & Police 10 HB 1960 K 38 Spl Military & Police Heavy Barrel 11 1936 1965 K 38 S&W Military & Police 12 1953 1986 KA 38 Spl Military & Police Airweight 13 1974 K 357 Mag 357 Magnum M&P 14 1947 1982 KT 38 Spl K-38 Masterpiece 15 1949 KT 38 Spl K-38 Combat Masterpiece 16 1947 1973 KT 32 S&W Long K-32 Masterpiece 17 1946 KT 22 LR K-22 Masterpiece 18 1949 1986 KT 22 LR K-22 Combat Masterpiece 19 1955 KT 357 Mag 357 Combat Magnum 20 1930 1966 N 38 Spl 38/44 Heavy Duty 21 1908 1966 N 44 Spl 1950 Model 44 Military 22 1917 1966 N 45 ACP 1950 Model 45 Army 23 1931 1966 NT 38 Spl 38/44 Outdoorsman 24 1908 1966 NT 44 Spl 1950 Model 44 Target 24 1984 1984 NT 44 Spl 7500 units reintroduced 25 1955 1983 NT 45 ACP 1955 Model 45 Target 25-3 1977 1977 NT 45 Colt 125th Commemorative 25-4 1977 1977 NT 45 Colt 125th Delux Comm 25-5 1978 NT 45 Colt 45 Colt 26 1950 1966 NT 45 ACP 1950 45 Target Light Barrel 27 1935 NT 357 Mag 357 Magnum 28 1954 1986 NT 357 Mag 357 Highway Patrolman 29 1955 NT 44 Mag 44 Magnum 30 1896 1976 I&J 32 S&W Long 32 Hand Ejector 31 1917 I&J 32 S&W Long 32 Regulation Police 32 1936 1974 I&J 38 S&W 38 Terrier 33 1917 1974 I&J 38 S&W 38 Regulation Police 34 1936 I&J 22 LR 22/32 Kit Gun 4" barrel 35 1911 1973 I&J 22 LR 22/32 Target 6" Barrel 36 1950 J 38 Spl 38 Chief Special 37 1952 JA 38 Spl 38 Chief Special Airweight 38 1955 JAC 38 Spl Bodyguard 39 1954 1981 Auto 9mm 9mm Double Action both alloy and steel 39-1 1960 1960 Auto 38 AMU Commonly called M-52A alloy 40 1952 1974 JS 38 Spl Centennial 41 1952 Auto 22 LR 22 Semi-Automatic 41-1 1960 1972 Auto 22 short 22 Short Semi-Auto 42 1953 1974 JAT 38 Spl Centennial Airweight 43 1954 1974 JAT 22 LR 22/32 Kit Gun Airweight 44 1954 1959 Auto 9mm 9mm Semi, Single Action alloy 45 1936 1965 K 22 LR 22 Military & Police 46 1959 1968 Auto 22 LR 22 Semi Auto 47 Experimental number used on several guns 48 1959 1986 KTM 22 WMRF K-22 Masterpiece MRF 49 1959 JC 38 Spl Bodyguard Steel Frame 50 1955 1975 JT 38 Spl 38 Chief Special Target 51 1960 1974 JTM 22 WMRF 22/32 MRF Kit Gun 52 1961 Auto 38 Spl 38 Chief Special Target Steel 52-A See Model 39-1 53 1961 1974 KTC 22 Jet 22 center fire magnum 54 Experimental never issued 55 Experimental never issued 56 1962 1963 KT 38 Spl KTX 38 Became Mod 15 2" bl. 57 1964 NT 41 Mag 41 Magnum 58 1964 1978 N 41 Mag 41 Magnum Military& Police 59 1971 1981 Auto 9mm 14 shot 9mm Semi-Auto Alloy 60 1965 J 38 Spl 38 Chief Special Stainless 61 1970 1973 Auto 22 LR 22 Escort 62 Experimental never issued 63 1977 JT 22 LR 1977 22/32 Kit Gun Stainless 64 1970 K 38 Spl 38 Military&Police Stainless 65 1974 K 357 Mag 357 Mag M&P Stainless 66 1971 KT 357 Mag 357 Combat Mag Stainless 67 1972 KT 38 Spl 38 Combat Masterpiece Stainless 68 1976 1976 KT 38 Spl California Highway Patrol Model Stainless 69/75 Not officially igned -- used experimentally 76 1968 1974 Auto 9mm Machine Pistol 77 1970 1978 22 cal Air rifle 78 1971 1978 22 Cal CO2 Pellet Pistol 79 1971 1978 177 Cal CO2 Pellet Pistol 80 1975 1978 177 BB CO2 Semi Auto Rifle
New Model Numbering System -------------------------- 147-A 1979 1979 9mm 14 shot DA steel frame Model 59 325PD 2003 N 6 shot 45 ACP, 2.5" barrel, Scandium Frame 329PD 2003 N 6 shot 44 Magnum, Scandium Frame, Stainless Brl, Ti Cylinder 340 J 5 shot 357 Magnum, Scandium Frame, shrouded/internal hammer 396 L 5 shot 44 Special, 3-1/8" barrel, Aluminum alloy frame 439 1979 9mm 8 shot DA Semi Auto Alloy 459 1979 9mm 14 shot DA Semi Auto Alloy 469 1983 9mm 12 Shot DA Semi Auto Alloy 500 2003 X 5 shot 500 S&W Magnum 520 1980 1980 N 357 Mag, Fixed Sights 539 1980 1983 9mm 8 shot DA semi auto Carbon Steel 547 1980 1985 K Steel 9mm Military & Police 559 1980 1983 Auto 9mm 14 shot DA Semi Auto Carbon Steel 581 1980 L 357 Mag Distinguished Service Magnum 586 1980 L 357 Mag Distinguished Combat Magnum 610 N 10 mm, 6 shot, stainless 624 1985 1986 NT 44 Spl 1985 Target Stainless 625 N 45 ACP and 45 Colt Stainless 627 N 357 Magnum, Stainless 629 1979 NT 44 Mag Stainless 629 Clic N 44 Mag, Stainless, full underlug 639 1982 Auto 9mm 8 shot DA Semi Auto Stainless 645 1985 Auto 45ACP DA Semi Auto Stainless 649 1985 JC 38 Spl Bodyguard Stainless 650 1982 JM 22 WMRF Service Kit Gun Stainless 651 1982 JTM 22 WMRF Target Kit Gun Stainless 657 N 41 Magnum, 6 shot, Stainless 659 1982 Auto 9mm 14 shot DA semi Auto Stainless 669 1985 Auto 9mm 12 shot DA Semi Auto Stainless 681 1980 L 357 Mag Distinguished Service Mag Stainless 686 1980 L 357 Mag Distinguished Combat Mag Stainless 686+ L 357 Mag, 7 shot cylinder, Stainless SW1911 2003 45 ACP 1911
Model and Dash numbering system -------------------------------- Model 10 -1 1959 Heavy Barrel -2 1961 Changed extractor rod thread to LH on standard barrel -3 1961 Same as above, for heavy barrel -4 1962 Screw in front of trigger eliminated -5 1962 1/10" to 1/8" front sight, on standard barrel -5 1962 Screw in front of trigger guard eliminated on heavy barrel model -7 1977 Change to put gas ring from yoke to cylinder -8 1977 Change to put gas ring from yoke to cylinder on heavy barrel model Model 12 1957 -1 1962 Change extractor rod to LH thread, eliminate screw in front of trigger guard -2 1962 Front sight changed from 1/10" to 1/8" -3 1977 Gas ring on yoke to cylinder -4 1984 Change frame thickness to same as all K frames Model 13 No designation used to avoid confusion with air force model 13 air crewman Model 13 -1 1974 Introduced -2 1977 Change back to gas ring on cylinder -3 1982 eliminate cylinder counterbore Model 14,15,16,17,18,48,53 (all start without dash in 1957) -1 1959 Change to LH extractor rod thread -2 1961 Cylinder stop changed, hole in front of trigger guard eliminated -3 1967 Relocation of rear sight leaf screw -4 1977 Changed gas ring from yoke to cylinder 19 All of the above changes and -5 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore
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Model 20,21,22,23,24,25 (except 25-5) 26,27,28,29 -1 1960 Change to LH thread -2 1961 Cylinder stop changed, hole in front of trigger guard eliminated -3 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore (magnums only) -4 2004 Thunder Ranch 44 Special, fixed sight Model 57 1964 Introduced -1 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore Model 629 1980 Introduced -1 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore Model 25-5 1978 -5 means 45 Colt caliber 125'th anniversary model, -3 (standard) -4 (delux) both of these used a shorter than standard cylinder. -7 1985 45 Colt, 5" barrel, unfluted cylinder K-Frame Stainless Models ------------------------ 64 1970 Introduced -1 1972 Heavy barrel -2 1977 2" standard barrel, gas ring from yoke to cylinder -3 1977 Same as above, for heavy barrel 65 -1 1974 introduced -2 1977 gas ring from yoke to cylinder -3 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore 66 1971 introduced -1 1977 Gas ring from yoke to cylinder -2 1982 Eliminate cylinder counterbore 67 1972 introduced -1 1977 gas ring from yoke to cylinder 39 1957 start of model numbering system -1, 1961 Made in 38 AMU cartridge for military 87 made. 52-A -2 1971 Change of extractor 41 1957 start of model numbering system -1 1960 22 Short chambering (dash number not always stamped) 52 1961 introduced -1 1963 Single action only -2 1971 Changed extractor 52-A See model 39-1 59 1971 introduced, no dash numbers used during production 61 1970 introduced in March -1 May '70 Add magazine safety -2 Sep '70 Addition of barrel nut -3 1971 Forged Al frame 76 1968 introduced, discontinued 1974 no dash numbers used
Small Frame Revolvers --------------------- Model 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 1957 Start of numbering system -1 1961 Change from I frame to J frame 36 -1 1967 Indicates 3" heavy barrel 37, 38, 40, 42, 43, 49, 63, 649, 650, 651 No dash numbers ued on above numbers 60 1965 Introduced -1 1972 Heavy barrel variation made in 1972, not marketed limited production only
I copied it directly from there But I want ot know is what models were in what chambering, the model 25 was a 45 Colt, now it's a 45ACP, and there were 2 or 3 different Thunder Ranch models
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Post by birdman on Jul 28, 2009 16:05:40 GMT -5
I think that will probably do it.
Thanks,
Birdman
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